- Polyfilla basing (Interesting idea I'll be stealing for my display)
- Lightbox on a budget (been looking for this!)
Thursday, April 26, 2012
Pollyfilla basing
I just stumbled upon this little gem: LilLegend Studios. It has a lot of interesting things about painting that's way out of my league but also some very useful low-tech ideas.
Black Ogrun Conversions: Part 1
Since I received the first three Black Ogrun models I've been thinking about what I could do with them. I really want to do away with the whole pirate feel so I dug through my bits looking for "something". I didn't really know what I was looking for but I found it.
Lich Lord Venethrax has some serious cryxian vibes going on and it would be pretty cool if I could steal his sword and a shoulder plate for the Black Ogrun. The sword and gauntlet would be unaltered but the shoulder pad would have the "beak" removed and end up like this.
If I add some grey stuff I think I can get them looking like Cryx versions of Warmongers. I've done some attempts at copying the gear with Easy Mold but it isn't working out well enough. That could be because of my very limited experience with the stuff, but if it doesn't improve I might have to find some other way of casting (If you have ideas, links, guides, whatever I'd love to have them)
They also need harpoons in order to be tournament legal, but the models become really crowded if I add the ones they come with on top of a sword and shoulder armor, not to mention the fact that the harpoons look clumsy and ugly. I did try some Circle Wolf Rider spears on them but they were tiny and I want these guys to look brutal and threatening (since their job is to attract attention and survive it).
/Lamoron
Lich Lord Venethrax has some serious cryxian vibes going on and it would be pretty cool if I could steal his sword and a shoulder plate for the Black Ogrun. The sword and gauntlet would be unaltered but the shoulder pad would have the "beak" removed and end up like this.
If I add some grey stuff I think I can get them looking like Cryx versions of Warmongers. I've done some attempts at copying the gear with Easy Mold but it isn't working out well enough. That could be because of my very limited experience with the stuff, but if it doesn't improve I might have to find some other way of casting (If you have ideas, links, guides, whatever I'd love to have them)
They also need harpoons in order to be tournament legal, but the models become really crowded if I add the ones they come with on top of a sword and shoulder armor, not to mention the fact that the harpoons look clumsy and ugly. I did try some Circle Wolf Rider spears on them but they were tiny and I want these guys to look brutal and threatening (since their job is to attract attention and survive it).
/Lamoron
Monday, April 23, 2012
pDeneghra Vs. pStryker
It was an interesting game because I got to meet my first Battle Engine but that's about it. I really like this new pDeneghra list but it makes for some seriously uninteresting games if the enemy isn't prepared for it, though the list I was facing had me seriously confused:
Commander Coleman Stryker- Ol' Rowdy- StormcladStorm Strider
Stormblade Infantry (Leader and 5 Grunts)- Stormblade Infantry Officer & StandardCaptain Arlan StrangewayesEiryss, Angel of RetributionJourneyman WarcasterRhupert Carvolo, Piper of OrdSquire
His deployment was standard and that Storm Strider really dominated the line, but I brought the Black Ogrun and those POW 10 leaps didn't scare me nearly as much as they would have with my old infantry spam list.
First turn running as usual (the Bloat Thrall on the bottom right had the "honor" of being Parasited because the Bloats would do fuck all this game anyway). The Bloodgorgers are Black Ogrun but I did receive the first three real models today so next week should feature less proxies (but damn they're ugly models)
Then he ran everything up and popped his feat. Arcane Shield on Rowdy and Juniors Arcane Shield on the Stormclad made the two front-line jacks damn near immortal (armor 28 and 27 respectively). His infantry was mostly armor 20 and even with the debuff queen that nut was hard to crack! I decided I didn't need to crack it and scenario was the way to go (Overrun).
Peanut butter jelly time! |
Deneghra feats and catches almost the entire list since it's so small. Gorman Black Oils the Stormclad and the Sirens lock down a heavy each. The Stormclad was actually down to defense three at the time but I couldn't manage more than five damage total on that armored monstrosity. A Pistol Wraith managed Death Chill on the Storm Strider so it couldn't aim, and without tokens and with The Withering up it had little chance of hitting a barn door. A Crippling Grasp on the Storm Blades and they were out with SPD 1 and no run/charge.
Then I just ran up the remaining Black Ogrun (a couple of them were fried by the Storm Strider since it was impossible to avoid as the thing threatens 23" with Snipe) and made a wall of flesh. I positioned the WSC to make a new Seether when his turn was over (no running away with Shadow Bind on the heavies) but he pondered the setup for about fifteen minutes and declared the game unwinnable.
Warwitch Deneghra- Deathripper- DeathripperBlack Ogrun Boarding Party (Leader and 4 Grunts)
Black Ogrun Boarding Party (Leader and 4 Grunts)The Withershadow CombineBloat ThrallBloat ThrallGorman di WulfeOrin MidwinterPistol WraithPistol WraithSaxon OrrikWarwitch SirenSkarlock ThrallWarwitch Siren
This list impresses me every time and even with stupid moves (I wanted to nuke the elf hooker but when I tried bouncing lightning through my own Saxon Orrik I was outside 5" and stealth works on my own models as well) it was never really a problem. Now I just need to convert my Black Ogrun and find a workable paint scheme for the Pistol Wraiths and I'm golden.
/Lamoron
Etiketter:
Cryx,
IABN,
Warwitch Deneghra
Spotlight: Orin Midwinter
It took me a long time to figure this guy out and as usual the revelation came when I looked beyond his intended purpose: Specialized in hunting
spell-casters, Midwinter uses his arcane energy to draw power from enemy
wizards, suppress their magic, or simply strike them down with arcs of
lightning.
That sentence actually holds the key to Orin Midwinter because it talks about abilities that very rarely have any effect and casually mentions what makes him a wild card powerhouse so I've rewritten it: Specialized in hunting high defense solo characters, Midwinter occasionally uses his arcane energy to draw power from enemy wizards and Arc Lightnings something important.
As always the Battlecollege will take you through most of it. Orin Midwinter will die to a single Gun Mage almost every time, and unless he's using his stealth or hiding he'll die to anything that manages a slightly above average attack roll. This is what you have to work with but luckily Orin Midwinter has a few things going for him.
The reason you run is because Orin Midwinter threatens sixteen inches with his Arc Lightning, and that means frying models on turn two if they dare leave the deployment zone (if you're really lucky you can Arc Lightning and have it leap back and fry important support models even if they didn't advance at all). If you advance just six inches you risk having no viable targets in turn two since that leaves an opponent the option to advance eight or nine inches and remain outside his threat range.
If you cast Null Magic his perceived threat will be very high but if you run or stealth it will be extremely low because most people think Orin Midwinter is shit (not THE shit, just shit). Few people really expect him to fry half a unit or kill Eiryss while she's stealth and in Cover, so they leave him alone and expect to dedicate a couple of models to ensure an easy kill when he unveils himself and pops Null Magic.
Orin Midwinter isn't in all my lists but he's a fine answer to enemy incorporeal models, stealth solos, and against things that are immune to magic he can lay down a beating if he's got a few tokens to back him up (MAT 6 and PS 9 with three tokens means two dead solo characters if he can reach them).
It's important to remember that he's an offensive solo and not like his abilities otherwise suggest a defensive one. He'll probably die after he engages and throws out an Arc Lightning but he can inflict massive damage if you apply that spell correctly and there's usually no hiding from it. Orin Midwinter is a solid two point solo and he performs as such.
/Lamoron
Bug Zapper Extraordinaire
That sentence actually holds the key to Orin Midwinter because it talks about abilities that very rarely have any effect and casually mentions what makes him a wild card powerhouse so I've rewritten it: Specialized in hunting high defense solo characters, Midwinter occasionally uses his arcane energy to draw power from enemy wizards and Arc Lightnings something important.
As always the Battlecollege will take you through most of it. Orin Midwinter will die to a single Gun Mage almost every time, and unless he's using his stealth or hiding he'll die to anything that manages a slightly above average attack roll. This is what you have to work with but luckily Orin Midwinter has a few things going for him.
- Stealth
- Null Magic & Energy Vacuum
Null Magic. Now this is where it all comes together. Skorne hates (...) those guys with spells such as Forcebolt which can pull you close to them, destroying your positioning, shieldwall, and general movement shenanigans. Parking Orin behind a large or medium base will make them immune to those RNG10 attacks, keeping your important models safe from those nefarious magic users. - CardboardNull Magic also stops Energy Vacuum and we really like those power tokens. Energy Vacuum gives Orin a token every time an enemy model casts a spell within twelve inches and that's a lot easier to achieve than blocking spells (people will occasionally cast within the area because it benefits them somehow or they need it to be in range).
- Arc Lightning
How to zap bugs: AdvanceThe first thing I discovered was that if I had the first turn if was counterproductive to use his Stealth spell. If you have a way of keeping him safe from long range shooting (or your opponent has none) then run like the wind. There's 31" between deployment zones, which means that unless your opponent has something that can reach 19" on his first turn (or Advance Deployment, extended deployment zone, etc. etc.) you should be safe. If you go second then stealth is important unless you're facing Legion/Cygnar or something that in general ignores it.
The reason you run is because Orin Midwinter threatens sixteen inches with his Arc Lightning, and that means frying models on turn two if they dare leave the deployment zone (if you're really lucky you can Arc Lightning and have it leap back and fry important support models even if they didn't advance at all). If you advance just six inches you risk having no viable targets in turn two since that leaves an opponent the option to advance eight or nine inches and remain outside his threat range.
How to zap bugs: DefenseModels that ignore stealth rarely ignores Cover as well and Orin Midwinter is hard to shift at defense eighteen. There's no reason not to give him a little extra defense if you can, but let's be honest and admit that he's probably not important enough to get any of the good spots. Orin Midwinter has a special defense you won't find on his card though, and it's more powerful than stealth and cover combined: perceived threat.
If you cast Null Magic his perceived threat will be very high but if you run or stealth it will be extremely low because most people think Orin Midwinter is shit (not THE shit, just shit). Few people really expect him to fry half a unit or kill Eiryss while she's stealth and in Cover, so they leave him alone and expect to dedicate a couple of models to ensure an easy kill when he unveils himself and pops Null Magic.
How to zap bugs: OffenseOrin Midwinter needs no help but his potential skyrockets if he gets some. Arc Lightning threatens sixteen inches and with three potential leaps you can theoretically zap a model from 34" away by bouncing lightning bolts off two large based models. Realistically though we're talking 21-22" threat by bouncing a single bolt of the initial target and everything else should be considered a bonus.
- pDeneghra: The Withering makes him RAT 9 and POW 12 which is exceptional for a two point solo. Parasite means bouncing what amounts to POW 15 lightning bolts around and that's enough to fry several of the cavalry models in the game.
- eDeneghra: Web of Shadows and Curse of Shadows makes him RAT 10 and POW 12.
- Scaverous: Telekinesis is hilarious when you need to set up a chain of lightning going exactly where you need it. Defense and Armor debuffs available means Orin will fit here as well.
- All others: Solo characters like Eiryss and Anastasia are hard for Cryx to take out at range and we really need a way to handle them. A special mention should go to eSkarre and her feat which can keep him safe from almost anything, and the "Immortal Null Magic Orin Midwinter" is impressive.
Conclusion
Orin Midwinter isn't in all my lists but he's a fine answer to enemy incorporeal models, stealth solos, and against things that are immune to magic he can lay down a beating if he's got a few tokens to back him up (MAT 6 and PS 9 with three tokens means two dead solo characters if he can reach them).
It's important to remember that he's an offensive solo and not like his abilities otherwise suggest a defensive one. He'll probably die after he engages and throws out an Arc Lightning but he can inflict massive damage if you apply that spell correctly and there's usually no hiding from it. Orin Midwinter is a solid two point solo and he performs as such.
/Lamoron
Etiketter:
Cryx,
IABN,
Orin Midwinter,
Spotlight
Scaverous conversion by Sanctjud
Every once in a while you stumble upon something that just makes the jaw drop. Usually it's some major piece of terrain or an impressive paint job but this time it's a conversion. The thing is made by Sanctjud from the Privateer Press forums and his thread has a lot of very unique ideas I'm going to shamelessly steal from now on.
The idea is fantastic. I don't think I've ever come across a more unique and stunning conversion. I think he messed it up a bit later on since the "flying rocks" aspect died (presumably because it was to hard to pull off) but I'm certainly stealing this idea.
/Lamoron
The idea is fantastic. I don't think I've ever come across a more unique and stunning conversion. I think he messed it up a bit later on since the "flying rocks" aspect died (presumably because it was to hard to pull off) but I'm certainly stealing this idea.
/Lamoron
Etiketter:
Conversions,
Cryx,
IABN
Sunday, April 22, 2012
Mountain King in action
I think I just wet myself. There are more of them over here. I don't think I've ever been so impressed with a model before and this conversion holding a tree is just...
The Whelps are a bit annoying, but I guess they're optional so it won't really matter, but the thing itself defies words. I thought the Conquest was alright, I didn't much like the Stormwall, and the Kraken was not that bad but this thing...
/Lamoron
The Whelps are a bit annoying, but I guess they're optional so it won't really matter, but the thing itself defies words. I thought the Conquest was alright, I didn't much like the Stormwall, and the Kraken was not that bad but this thing...
/Lamoron
Skarlock done
I got around to putting the final touches on the Skarlock conversion. I know I should probably learn to enjoy painting but I just never do and the quality shows.
The thing looks nice at a distance though and I really like how it turned out. It looks a lot more like an arcane spellcasting assistant than the regular little wimp.
/Lamoron
The thing looks nice at a distance though and I really like how it turned out. It looks a lot more like an arcane spellcasting assistant than the regular little wimp.
/Lamoron
Orin Midwinter done
I finished painting Orin Midwinter in my new scheme. It's not the best of images as usual but I think you can get an idea about the model.
I like how corrupted he turned out and though he's been performing somewhat below expectations in most games so far his potential with pDeneghra is impressive (and he did wipe out half a unit of Blackbane's Ghost Raiders in my last game). I've come to the conclusion that his magic suppression ability is a trap and using him for his bug zapping ability is the way to go.
/Lamoron
I like how corrupted he turned out and though he's been performing somewhat below expectations in most games so far his potential with pDeneghra is impressive (and he did wipe out half a unit of Blackbane's Ghost Raiders in my last game). I've come to the conclusion that his magic suppression ability is a trap and using him for his bug zapping ability is the way to go.
/Lamoron
Etiketter:
Cryx,
IABN,
Orin Midwinter,
Painting
Friday, April 20, 2012
Black Ogrun incoming
The one good thing about being ill is that you get to buy stuff and it's alright because it makes you feel better (shut up... it does!). I've decided that I like Black Ogrun enough to actually buy them, even if I only get to field them with a couple of casters.
I'm thinking they need new melee weapons and some serious work on their heads. I also think they need armor and a more cryxian feel (I would have loved another model entirely but PP conversion rules are hard to work with).
I would have loved to use the Skorne Arcuarii weapons but I doubt I can buy ten of those without making these guys the most expensive models in my collection. Just because I'm interested I did a little comparison between Arcuarii and Black Ogrun since their so similar.
/Lamoron
I'm thinking they need new melee weapons and some serious work on their heads. I also think they need armor and a more cryxian feel (I would have loved another model entirely but PP conversion rules are hard to work with).
I would have loved to use the Skorne Arcuarii weapons but I doubt I can buy ten of those without making these guys the most expensive models in my collection. Just because I'm interested I did a little comparison between Arcuarii and Black Ogrun since their so similar.
- Black Ogrun are one inch faster.
- Black Ogrun are two points stronger.
- Arcuarii are Fearless.
- Black Ogrun cause Terror.
- Arcuarii hit about 2.5 points harder.
- Arcuarii have 0.5 additional threat due to reach.
- Arcuarii: 1.5 points / 1.5 points (min/max)
- Black Ogrun: 1.3 points / 1.2 points (min/max)
/Lamoron
Wednesday, April 18, 2012
While I cough and die
Well it feels like it... I hate being ill and I can't even stay home from work because I have a three day event going the rest of the week. Instead I can link an article about using cavalry from Lost Hemisphere: My little pwnies
If you don't check LH regularly you're missing out on things. The articles are often very interesting (if not especially thorough) and the sheer amount of them makes for a lot of gold nuggets just waiting to be found.
If you don't check LH regularly you're missing out on things. The articles are often very interesting (if not especially thorough) and the sheer amount of them makes for a lot of gold nuggets just waiting to be found.
Tuesday, April 17, 2012
When clones fight...
We got in the pDeneghra Vs. pDeneghra game last night and the result was as predicted. My opponent had a non-stealth melee list against a ranged list backed up by debuffs and it's not worth going into details. Instead I did some thinking and came up with the reason ranged pDeneghra is so brutal.
Ranged lists have two major problems. The first is that ranged attacks are often low powered and the second is that you normally only get one round to make it count, but Warwitch Deneghra solves both issues. Feat round and debuffs make cheap ranged models hit as hard as most long range Warjacks and The Withering/Crippling Grasp makes sure you get another round of shooting in, which is usually enough to completely break the back of any list.
The Black Ogrun were kings of the battlefield again, Orin Midwinter lucked out and took down Blackbane and three Ghost Raiders with a single spell, but the Bloat Thralls never got around to doing much (mostly because I tried to hard to keep them safe). I also tried Nightwretches instead of Deathrippers but in this game it made no difference. The kill was a Scourge + Black Ogrun drag followed by Gorman hitting the Black Ogrun with an Acid Bomb and killing Deneghra with the splash.
/Lamoron
Ranged lists have two major problems. The first is that ranged attacks are often low powered and the second is that you normally only get one round to make it count, but Warwitch Deneghra solves both issues. Feat round and debuffs make cheap ranged models hit as hard as most long range Warjacks and The Withering/Crippling Grasp makes sure you get another round of shooting in, which is usually enough to completely break the back of any list.
The Black Ogrun were kings of the battlefield again, Orin Midwinter lucked out and took down Blackbane and three Ghost Raiders with a single spell, but the Bloat Thralls never got around to doing much (mostly because I tried to hard to keep them safe). I also tried Nightwretches instead of Deathrippers but in this game it made no difference. The kill was a Scourge + Black Ogrun drag followed by Gorman hitting the Black Ogrun with an Acid Bomb and killing Deneghra with the splash.
/Lamoron
Monday, April 16, 2012
pDeneghra Vs. pDeneghra tonight
Jelly-belly and Butterball are ready to take the field (just need front arcs). Their first game will be a pDeneghra mirror match tonight though it's against a new(ish) player with what I feel is a less than optimal list.
It will be our first large game (we've had some 15-20 point games before) and he'll be bringing the list below. I think it's mostly what he has painted and it would probably be better for him to face up against someone else, but most of the local players are going to see Iron Sky instead so he's stuck with me.
The Bane Knights will be targeted by a Crippling Grasp since he has no upkeep removal, which effectively takes them out of the fight. The Bloat Thralls can shell the center and the Black Ogrun can clean up. I do have some problems actually hitting Deneghra since I have nothing that can boost to hit besides Nightwretches, but we'll see how that goes.
/Lamoron
I love those guys! |
The list I'll be using, proxies and all...Warwitch Deneghra- Deathripper- DeathripperBane Knights (Leader and 9 Grunts)Bile Thralls (Leader and 5 Grunts)Blackbane's Ghost Raiders (Leader and 5 Grunts)Bane Lord TartarusGorman di WulfePistol WraithPistol WraithSkarlock Thrall+ something worth four points
I think he'll be blown away but maybe we'll both learn something. Feat timing seems critical as I need my feat offensively and he needs his defensively. His first line will be Blackbane's since they're so fast, but I think Venoms, Pistol Wraiths, Dark Fires, and Orin Midwinter will take care of them. I would be nice if I could prevent his Pistol Wraiths from tagging mine but it's still an exchange he can't really afford.Warwitch Deneghra- Nightwretch- NightwretchBlack Ogrun Boarding Party (Leader and 4 Grunts) - ProxiesBlack Ogrun Boarding Party (Leader and 4 Grunts) - ProxiesThe Withershadow CombineBloat ThrallBloat ThrallGorman di WulfeOrin MidwinterPistol WraithPistol WraithSaxon OrrikSkarlock ThrallWarwitch SirenWarwitch Siren
The Bane Knights will be targeted by a Crippling Grasp since he has no upkeep removal, which effectively takes them out of the fight. The Bloat Thralls can shell the center and the Black Ogrun can clean up. I do have some problems actually hitting Deneghra since I have nothing that can boost to hit besides Nightwretches, but we'll see how that goes.
/Lamoron
Sunday, April 15, 2012
Bloat Thralls WIP
I do actually own two Bloat Thralls so I dug them out of the bits box. Then I remembered that one came with no legs and I dismembered the other one in order to make a Deathjack I don't even use. I thought about it and decided I'd gotten very little work done on my conversions lately so I probably shouldn't start new ones.
Grey stuff to add some flesh at the bottom, cork to lift the models up a bit, and I threw on a little paint as well. I'm very much looking forward to putting them on the table Monday but I see that most of the club is going to see Iron Sky instead so that might not happen. I really don't have enough time for gaming and tournaments these days so missing a Monday makes me a sad panda.
/Lamoron
Jelly-belly and Butterball, dynamic duo! |
/Lamoron
Friday, April 13, 2012
May you live in interesting times!
The new site is almost up and running now. I'm very excited about it but the import function is messing everything up and redirecting every link in the Cryx Archive on the Privateer Press forum will be an arduous task as well. I'll probably end up creating some link archives to this site instead but now you know why there's been so quiet lately (that and vacation of course).
Etiketter:
IABN
Wednesday, April 11, 2012
Theory Machine: Bloat Thralls
I had a lot of time to think on the way home from Barcelona. Our original tickets were booked on an airline that went bankrupt and our new tickets had a stop over which took more time than anticipated so we missed the train. Then the next train was late so I had five hours with nothing but a sleeping wife, two drunks, and sugar to keep me company.
At some point I got to thinking about the whole multiple wound model thing I have going on in the pDeneghra list with two full boarding parties, and I realized that a couple of Bloat Thralls would be a less obvious target in a list like that. Usually the POW 10-12 shots will target my single wound models and the POW 14+ shots will be free to one-hit Bloat Thralls but in a list where the majority of models have similar durability these guys might actually work.
I've always wanted a list with dual Bloat Thralls and while I remain skeptical I'll be trying it out as soon as possible.
Sleep got me around 4. AM |
They're horrible marksmen but pDeneghra solves a lot of problems in that department (Aiming + Withering + Crippling Grasp equals a RAT 10 shot with POW 18). POW 7 blast damage is alright but with the debuff queen it becomes very dangerous to bunch up. Arcing Fire enables me to deal a little better with second line models and blast damage gives me a threat against squishy stealth solos.
I've always wanted a list with dual Bloat Thralls and while I remain skeptical I'll be trying it out as soon as possible.
Etiketter:
Bloat Thrall,
Cryx,
IABN,
Warwitch Deneghra
Tuesday, April 10, 2012
The Kraken
You've all seen it already but for the sake of completeness I'll include it anyway. The thing is I really like the Kraken which is a total surprise and very unlike me.
I've been pining for more Corpse fueled models since I discovered Warmachine and now it seems we're getting some. The rules could still suck but I like the concept and model a lot so far.
I've been pining for more Corpse fueled models since I discovered Warmachine and now it seems we're getting some. The rules could still suck but I like the concept and model a lot so far.
Etiketter:
Cryx
Thursday, April 5, 2012
Vacation update!
I got the hotel Internet up and running. I have a lewd mind and a tendency to misinterpret signs, so here's a couple of treats I think you might like ;)
And finally a classic: Restaurants that should have checked their spelling before printing.
Check out the fourth item in the desserts section... I tried it, it was delicious.
I wonder which types of ships can dock there. |
Turns out it really IS a gay porn movie theater |
Probably got the idea at Boyberry |
Check out the fourth item in the desserts section... I tried it, it was delicious.
Monday, April 2, 2012
All aboard the Black Ogrun pain train!
I got my game in and since I don't have the time to write up a full report I'll just comment on the Black Ogrun. I brought two units (proxies of course) and HOLY CRAP I've been underestimating the impact a unit with multiple wounds can have on a game, much less two full units of them.
I'll need some more games (a lot probably) in order to run them well but they were devastating. The WG Deathstar was wiped of the table since Withering + Crippling Grasp allowed me to pull a model into range of Unbinding (dual tough checks didn't work out as he had hoped there), and after that my solos cleaned up what was left. The other squad took care of three Doom Reavers and Rorsh took care of the rest.
It was a complete rape and I lost a grand total of three models (three Black Ogrun got blown to hell by Widowmakers during eSorschas feat round... who knew they carried 0.50 BMGs). I absolutely love them so far, and while I doubt they'll perform so well every game I've found something new to love (if only they weren't so darn expensive!)
I'll need some more games (a lot probably) in order to run them well but they were devastating. The WG Deathstar was wiped of the table since Withering + Crippling Grasp allowed me to pull a model into range of Unbinding (dual tough checks didn't work out as he had hoped there), and after that my solos cleaned up what was left. The other squad took care of three Doom Reavers and Rorsh took care of the rest.
It was a complete rape and I lost a grand total of three models (three Black Ogrun got blown to hell by Widowmakers during eSorschas feat round... who knew they carried 0.50 BMGs). I absolutely love them so far, and while I doubt they'll perform so well every game I've found something new to love (if only they weren't so darn expensive!)
Vacation time
Tomorrow I'm going to Barcelona and I'll be offline until April 10th. If I do manage a game tonight, even with extra shifts at work and a ton of things to do before I leave, I'll get it done before I leave but I doubt it.
Theory machine: Black Ogrun Boarding Party
I've been thinking a lot about the Black Ogrun the last couple of days. It's really bloody annoying that the models are so horrible, not to mention exceptionally expensive (80 dollars for ten of them is ridiculous), because they have some potential with pDeneghra (in theory).
I've been looking for a way to reduce the number of models in my lists since I'm such a slow player, but I still need ranged models because pDeneghra likes them so much. I also need multi-wound models that can survive damage dealing buffer effects, and some board control, and something that packs a punch.
It takes about four Gun Mages to bring down a single Black Ogrun on average and a Chain Lightning that jumps to every single one of them will take just 25% of their total boxes. They don't care about blast damage as rolling slightly above average will just annoy them (unlike single wound infantry that die if you beat their armor with even a single point).
My idea is to play them as a primarily ranged unit with pDeneghra. The drag effect will be nice in case of tough rolls (try again then will ya!) and engaging them isn't exactly healthy for most things in the game. A caster coming within fourteen inches is playing with fire unless he/she is immune to KD (Scourge is bad news) and has very high defense (The Withering + Crippling Grasp makes them RAT 9), and few things can walk in and one-shot them during my feat round.
I think it'll be funny and I hope someone will let me proxy them. It will take something special for me to consider buying and converting two full units.
/Lamoron
Warspears conversion looks great but is stupidly expensive! |
SpeedThe Black Ogrun are amongst the fastest heavy infantry in the game though the lack of reach does hurt. If we compare them to Man'o'Wars they have comparable charge ranges but the Black Ogrun pull ahead because of the ability to run twelve instead of eight, and that their survival isn't tied up on an ability that prevents them from running (Shield Wall). They're a lot slower than Tharn Ravagers but still amongst the fastest heavy infantry in the game.
Offense (Melee)Accurate little bastards with MAT seven. They have PS thirteen on their basic melee attack which is acceptable in a faction of debuffs, but a bit low when compared to our other melee options. They need a lot of help bringing down large targets and medium sized bases is not making it easier.
Offense (Ranged)Fourteen inch threat makes life hard on enemy heavy infantry. With The Withering and Parasite on something these guys are effectively POW 17 and even without a drag effect that will hurt. Against medium or smaller bases that ranged attack will be followed by a PS 18 melee attack if the drag works. Combined Ranged attack also seems worth mentioning but I don't think I'll be using it much.
Defense (Survivability)Two full units bring a massive eighty damage boxes to the table and are highly resistant to the massed POW 10 attacks that completely destroys my normal infantry lists (a single POW 10 hit cannot kill a Black Ogrun and it takes four of them on average to end a single Black Ogruns life). The many damage boxes also enables them to power through damaging effects if needed, and they'll survive a charge every now and then (which can really mess up an opponents plans).
It takes about four Gun Mages to bring down a single Black Ogrun on average and a Chain Lightning that jumps to every single one of them will take just 25% of their total boxes. They don't care about blast damage as rolling slightly above average will just annoy them (unlike single wound infantry that die if you beat their armor with even a single point).
Defense (Morale)Never underestimate morale checks. It makes no difference in 9/10 games, but when it works you often win. I fondly remember a game against Menoth where both his units of Daughters turned tail and ran, and just recently a failed Abomination check by a full unit of Kayazy Assassins made my opponent fight an uphill battle he eventually lost.
Utility (caster defense)The boys are big and they screen casters well. They block tramples and are difficult to shift. With pDeneghra they're very hard to kill if you happen to be under effect of The Withering (and pSkarre makes them stupidly tough to kill on her feat round).
What to do with them
My idea is to play them as a primarily ranged unit with pDeneghra. The drag effect will be nice in case of tough rolls (try again then will ya!) and engaging them isn't exactly healthy for most things in the game. A caster coming within fourteen inches is playing with fire unless he/she is immune to KD (Scourge is bad news) and has very high defense (The Withering + Crippling Grasp makes them RAT 9), and few things can walk in and one-shot them during my feat round.
I think it'll be funny and I hope someone will let me proxy them. It will take something special for me to consider buying and converting two full units.
Theoretically that list can push the Black Ogrun to PS 22 (13 base, +2 Withering, +3 Parasite, +2 Rust Bomb, +2 Dark Shroud) but with the Doom Piglet in there I shouldn't have to worry about very high armor targets as Brine will destroy one without blinking on feat turn, and a second, third and probably fourth heavy can be shut down hard with Crippling Grasp, Death Chill, Shadow Bind, and Black Oil.Warwitch Deneghra- Deathripper- DeathripperBlack Ogrun Boarding Party (Leader and 4 Grunts)Black Ogrun Boarding Party (Leader and 4 Grunts)The Withershadow CombineGorman di Wulfe, Rogue AlchemistMachine WraithMachine WraithMachine WraithPistol WraithPistol WraithRagmanRorsh- BrineSaxon OrrikSkarlock ThrallWarwitch SirenWarwitch Siren
/Lamoron
Sunday, April 1, 2012
Legion arrived today
The pile of models arrived today. They're poorly painted (even below my standard) but I can live with that or fix it up (can't really complain at that price).
It'll be a while before my Legion takes the field for real, and I still need to find a Raek or two, but I think it will benefit my chances at the ETC if I get in a couple of games with them. There's nothing better than running a faction yourself when you need to figure out how to beat it.
/Lamoron
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